Over a selection of Emma and Tom’s juices, Karen unpacks the disturbing dynamic of the Stone siblings. Dr Kaz soon learns that Julya is struggling in her role as second fiddle to ‘older’ brother Angiss. Karen probes the origin of Julya’s vocal fry and encourages her to stand in her power, aka her chest voice. In this episode, Julya was played by Scout Boxall (@scoutboxall on Instagram) and Angiss was played by James Collopy (@james.collopy on Instagram). Follow Dr Karen on Instagram @whyareyouherepod and Twitter @whyruherepod. Like ‘Why are you here?’ on Facebook @karendebbiecradle. All episodes recorded and edited by Morgan Thistlethwaite. Find him at PotatoRevolution.com. Artwork by Elyce Phillips: @elyce.phillips on Instagram and @ElycePhillips on Twitter. Music by James Ward. **Disclaimer: this podcast is not intended as a substitute for the advice of medical practitioners or actual Hollywood celebrities. Listeners should consult a doctor for matters relating to their health, attachment style and preferred injectables.